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From this article in The Times of India:

Outsource your job to get a new one! This is the new mantra doing the rounds in the US IT sector.

Says a programmer on Slashdot.org who outsourced his job: "About a year ago I hired a developer in India to do my job. I pay him $12,000 out of the $67,000 I get. He's happy to have the work. I'm happy that I have to work only 90 minutes a day just supervising the code. My employer thinks I'm telecommuting. Now I'm considering getting a second job and doing the same thing."

Smarter techies are working for three to four companies at the same time, outsourcing all the coding and just supervising them for few hours a day. This way they are able to earn four to five time more than what they used to.

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Date: 2004-08-27 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megadog.livejournal.com
For some time I've been openly opining that raw coding is in reality one of the blue-collar jobs of the 21st century, and so outsourcing it makes eminent sense.

Hong-Kong, China, India, the Philippines - all places where you can get good-enough IT graduates who are overjoyed to work for $500/month.

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Date: 2004-08-27 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ours-garou.livejournal.com

Lovely. "Misrepresent the service you're providing and make a fortune using second-rate coders!"

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Date: 2004-08-27 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shockwave77598.livejournal.com
It's rather difficult to work two jobs when you can only sit in one building at a time.

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Date: 2004-08-27 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megadog.livejournal.com
Here speaks a man who's not familiar with the idea of homeworking. One of my clients has never ever seen me in the flesh [but they are in Australia so I guess they have an excuse].

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Date: 2004-08-27 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akseawolf.livejournal.com
As far as outsourcing goes, personally, even though I myself am a former IT worker, I believe in a global economy. If American IT workers are losing jobs to foreign workers, then they need to become more competitive. The bubble is over and high wages are sure to be a thing of the past.

The only options I see are to accept less wages or to encourage our government to pressure countries like India and China to increase their cost of living.

telecommuting is a hard sell as it is

Date: 2004-08-27 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toraneko.livejournal.com
As much as it makes sense for so many jobs, employers are reluctant and this is one reason why. Way to go, laziness and greed, fuck up a good thing for a lot of people and ruin the potential for more all in the name of lining one's own pockets with the least possible work.

but you can't pull a wire via telecommuting

Date: 2004-08-28 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mejeep.livejournal.com
While there's an absurd logic to the situation, most of my jobs are NOT programming but analysis and meeting with people to clarify what they want. I'd love to someday have people working "under" me for the grunt details, but most of my jobs/contracts are for programmer/analyst, not just programmer. Many students at the engineering school are from India or Pakistan, and they have an Achilles' heel: they're taught to memorize things and follow things as done before, but they're really timid to trailblaze or have to think in new ways, let alone "outside the box". There's a mindset there that clashes with the American way of doing things, stifling innovation. Or else I'm out of work for good.

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Date: 2004-08-28 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bear-paws.livejournal.com
I think it was John Dvorak who recently wrote about how companies are outsourcing to India to save money. Something like every job outsourced to there saves another $3k/mo. He said if you extend this logic, EVERYBODY should outsource their jobs to India and wait for the checks to roll in - where's his?

The real point is that outsourcing labor and products is pushing us closer to the brink of another great financial depression.

Yes, there's a lot you can get done cheaper there, but at the cost of putting people in the US out of a job. If labor is too expensive here, work with the labor groups to find a solution!

The Japanese have a business model that permits them to sell products BELOW COST for years, something that if done in the US would stir anti-trust investigations. And that's exactly how it works... they sell product too cheap for competition to survive, then once the competition has dried up and blown away, then they can raise prices, having a natural monopoly.

Those outsourcing jobs overseas need to consider the future ramifications of their "cheap" goods and services suddenly becoming not so cheap or easily obtained!
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